tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18676377.post9115757187548494537..comments2024-03-23T12:05:15.956-04:00Comments on Steve Hargadon: Evaluating the Classroom 2.0 LIVE Workshop in San FranciscoSteve Hargadonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17776685502090744803noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18676377.post-1152048905455937362008-03-17T18:22:00.000-04:002008-03-17T18:22:00.000-04:00Hi Steve,I work on electronic media at the Associa...Hi Steve,<BR/>I work on electronic media at the Association for Career and Technical Education. This isn't too related to your post, but reading it made me realize how mad I get at myself for missing social networking opportunities. There are so many out there, and picking up on new trends is so time sensitive, that I feel quite anxious sometimes!<BR/><BR/>Great blog!<BR/><BR/>Catherine<BR/>www.acteonline.org/resource_center/blogs.cfmUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14150605532459835295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18676377.post-7568010737639821422008-02-25T16:08:00.000-05:002008-02-25T16:08:00.000-05:00We're playing with shoutbox software to embed on o...We're playing with shoutbox software to embed on our actual web site presentation session pages, and can let you know how that turns out.Jared M. Steinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16298048399299003074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18676377.post-82619761025281615562008-02-23T21:15:00.000-05:002008-02-23T21:15:00.000-05:00I've found some additional chat sites/programs tha...I've found some additional chat sites/programs that look as though they might fit the bill, and also appear to be relatively protected from spammers (they do this by having you create an unique name for a chat room that no one else knows about but the people you tell). The downside to these services is that I don't see that they keep a log... <BR/><BR/>But we're getting closer:<BR/><BR/>http://www.chatmaker.net/<BR/>http://karzi.com/<BR/>http://chat.zoho.com/Steve Hargadonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17776685502090744803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18676377.post-1789065876133553022008-02-13T13:13:00.000-05:002008-02-13T13:13:00.000-05:00Now again, don't forget that you will have to moni...Now again, don't forget that you will have to monitor the chat heavily. In a typical 3-hour class, we're generally blocking about 6 unwanted chatters. I guess 2 per hour isn't bad?<BR/><BR/>In order to embed the chat on a wiki, you have to make it public - which, in turns, makes it show up in the Meebo public listings. With that, you get bored chatters wandering in (looking for a range of fun). The good news is that they generally are easy to identify, making the blocking process pain-free.Darren Draperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17578208859042859340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18676377.post-83856610742142910232008-02-13T13:02:00.000-05:002008-02-13T13:02:00.000-05:00Darren:Amazing log. Wow. Meebo has done a really...Darren:<BR/><BR/>Amazing log. Wow. Meebo has done a really, really good job there. That will REALLY CHANGE what I do at the workshops. And in conference talks. <BR/><BR/>SteveSteve Hargadonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17776685502090744803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18676377.post-25824025332932067752008-02-13T12:32:00.000-05:002008-02-13T12:32:00.000-05:00Yeah, the Meebo chat logs are great. They organiz...Yeah, the Meebo chat logs are great. They organize the links and keep a very nice log.<BR/><BR/>Here's a sample log, if others are interested:<BR/><BR/>http://tinyurl.com/2t8wkxDarren Draperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17578208859042859340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18676377.post-15484005587183129712008-02-13T12:30:00.000-05:002008-02-13T12:30:00.000-05:00Darren:I can't believe I didn't think of Meebo. I...Darren:<BR/><BR/>I can't believe I didn't think of Meebo. I just looked at it again, and it seems to capture the chat in logs--which seems to me to be essential.<BR/><BR/>Thanks!Steve Hargadonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17776685502090744803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18676377.post-8304076503331401882008-02-13T12:20:00.000-05:002008-02-13T12:20:00.000-05:00As far as connecting with others, our "Get Connect...As far as connecting with others, our "Get Connected" page has worked flawlessly (with OpenPD) - as long as someone monitors the chat room. With a public Meebo chat, sometimes you pick up a few hoodlums. However, we've decided that the ease of use warrants the monitoring.<BR/><BR/>http://openpd.wikispaces.com/Get+ConnectedDarren Draperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17578208859042859340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18676377.post-36725188081045475722008-02-13T12:12:00.000-05:002008-02-13T12:12:00.000-05:00Jared:I had set up PIBB for the web-based chat, bu...Jared:<BR/><BR/>I had set up PIBB for the web-based chat, but the log-in process was too complicated for first time users, given that I introduced it at the start of the workshop. What programs would you suggest? This is something I'd really like to nail down!<BR/><BR/>We tried a different approach with the blogging, which was that I had set up a specific tag for the workshop, and we talked about tagging and showed how it allows you to aggregate posts through Google Blog Search or Technorati. I was going to follow that up with a discussion of RSS the next day, and we just didn't get to it. In retrospect, I think a Ning social network would have been a better way to have drawn the attendees in, since blogging can be SO hard and scary to start doing if you haven't done it before, but in a Ning network there could have been contributions right off the bat. See the http://community.cue.org network I've built for the CUE conference, and how you can have a forum discussion for every session, and people can send each other messages right away and blog almost immediately. I feel somewhat stupid for not doing this. One easy way to do it would have been to have had a "group" in Classroom 2.0 for the workshop,<BR/><BR/>I can't emphasize how much I think "free" or "break and breakout" time is useful, and how hard it can be to justify with a limited amount of time--seeing as I broke my own rules here. But I think you need between 20 - 40 minutes of collaborative time after sessions, and it occurs to me that it would be really good to facilitate that somehow--not to constrain or organize the time, but to encourage connections for those who might be shy, maybe? <BR/><BR/>Thanks for asking questions!Steve Hargadonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17776685502090744803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18676377.post-22346744118779814872008-02-12T23:00:00.000-05:002008-02-12T23:00:00.000-05:00Read through this more thoroughly, and we're defin...Read through this more thoroughly, and we're definitely going to incorporate some of these in <A HREF="http://www.ttix.org" REL="nofollow">TTIX 2008</A>.<BR/><BR/>A couple ideas:<BR/><BR/>In addition to the option of Twitter, why not a simple web-based chat room for back channeling? It's old-fashioned now, but most setups require no user name, and rooms are easily created. Skype is cool too, however.<BR/><BR/>We are going to try starting TTIX with a 45-minute pre-conference session for everyone on Twitter and blogging. Just a means of getting people in and familiar with these two powerful social software tools. We're going to ask for volunteers to each guest review 1 session during the day on our TTIX blog, and so we'll divvy out users/passes at that time.<BR/><BR/>Question (and you're welcome to discuss this via e-mail): how much time is sufficient for folks to collaborate and communicate between sessions? 15? 30?Jared M. Steinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16298048399299003074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18676377.post-90616754006393362752008-02-12T13:37:00.000-05:002008-02-12T13:37:00.000-05:00Awesome post, highlighting a ton of great ideas th...Awesome post, highlighting a ton of great ideas that sound like they were well-implemented. Well done.Jared M. Steinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16298048399299003074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18676377.post-712716971633363002008-02-08T14:13:00.000-05:002008-02-08T14:13:00.000-05:00Kevin: Left, right, center... who cares? :) Wi...Kevin: Left, right, center... who cares? :) Wish you could have been there!<BR/><BR/>Meg: Yes, I expected a larger interest. Not that 70 - 80 sign-ups is small, but I do think (hope) we'll see more and more interest.<BR/><BR/>Darren: We had three from SLC at the workshop. I would imagine that's a good sign!Steve Hargadonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17776685502090744803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18676377.post-23907386651996393902008-02-08T12:10:00.000-05:002008-02-08T12:10:00.000-05:00Having participated with Vicki and her students in...Having participated with Vicki and her students in last year's Horizon Project, I echo your feelings about the amazing things that she does. I was very impressed with the kinds of projects they are able to accomplish and the quality of their work.<BR/><BR/>The CR 2.0 workshops sound like a huge hit! I'm ready for you to come to SLC and will add our site to the list when I'm able to get others on board.<BR/><BR/>Great work as always, Steve.<BR/><BR/>DDDarren Draperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17578208859042859340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18676377.post-10046411781268446852008-02-08T11:19:00.000-05:002008-02-08T11:19:00.000-05:00Steve,I am right in the middle of the country unde...Steve,<BR/>I am right in the middle of the country under a few feet of snow, sunny CA sure sounds great right now!<BR/>I waded through and learned a great deal. I am surprised you did not have hundreds attend, I do have to agree with you on one hand getting two days out can be a challenge, yet on the flip side if someone traveled a distance I don't think they would come if it was only one day.<BR/>Word of mouth will spread this I am sure.<BR/>Free time is so critical! I am sure your feedback will reflect it. The big conferences I attend are great, but everyone is rushing here and there. I always learn more from the informal time. <BR/>Great work!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18676377.post-69437714985157473632008-02-08T06:11:00.000-05:002008-02-08T06:11:00.000-05:00OopsI meant to say "right coast" -- Massachusetts....Oops<BR/>I meant to say "right coast" -- Massachusetts.<BR/>Too early in the morning, I guess.<BR/>KevinDogtraxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16079631702744063837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18676377.post-46419928244547603132008-02-08T06:09:00.000-05:002008-02-08T06:09:00.000-05:00SteveI wish I had been there but I am on the left ...Steve<BR/>I wish I had been there but I am on the left coast of the US. :)<BR/>I appreciated this post, though, and felt as if you had so many interesting things going on.<BR/>I liked the idea of lightning rounds -- to give many people a voice in the unconference -- and the what's in your bag -- for sharing out some tools that people are using.<BR/>This kind of gathering seems to me to be more productive than some other official conferences.<BR/>Kevin<BR/><BR/>http://dogtrax.edublogs.org/Dogtraxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16079631702744063837noreply@blogger.com