Comments on Steve Hargadon: Moving Toward Web 2.0 in K-12 Education

Came across this just today, Steve, embedded as it...

2011-07-06T11:19:54.980-07:00

Came across this just today, Steve, embedded as it is in an online teaching certification course I am taking through my work. May I just say that you are one of the smartest humans I know. Your well-spoken arguments for the use of Web 2.0 have driven adoption and innovation in so many ways that you deserve an ongoing standing ovation. Thank you for being there for us, for Classroom2.0 and all its other iterations and spin-offs, and most of all for your leadership. I did get to say hi in Philly at ISTE11 but didn't get to spend quality time with you. Hopefully I'll see you in San Diego next summer and I'll have a bit more time to spare for friends and cherished colleagues! Carry on!

@chamilton: Yes, I'd love to talk. I've also t...

2008-12-15T15:34:00.000-08:00

@chamilton: Yes, I'd love to talk. I've also tracked the "students as Web 2.0 teachers" idea since a workshop we did in Arizona where it came out of a brainstorm on helping *parents* move into the Web 2.0 world. It's so entirely in harmony with the Web 2.0 and Open Source world to help students play this role. The idea in Arizon was to have the students prepare for and then teach an evening class for the community.

I'm steve@hargadon.com or stevehargadon on Skype/Twitter/etc.

Thanks Steve,

That will prove to be a usefu...

2008-12-15T15:25:00.000-08:00

Thanks Steve,

That will prove to be a useful resource. Recently I was asked to speak to a Ministry Of Advanced Education Summit in British Columbia, Canada on the role of Web 2.0 technologies in learning. My day job puts me smack in the middle of this space for our company and learning overall. I won’t bore you with the whole presentation detail, but one recommendation seems to have spread quite quickly. After detailing just why Web 2.0 thinking is having a profound impact on learning, I suggested off the cuff (in Q&A) that perhaps we should run an afterschool program for teachers, taught by fourteen year olds, remunerated by the government in some way. This drew a few laughs at first, but I’ve had this idea come back to me several times from a wide variety of people and I think some hybrid of the concept may evolve. I’ll let you know.

Also if you want to share best practices from IBM on learning in the workplace with emerging Web 2.0 technologies, we can talk. I think all levels of the learning community would benefit. Thanks for all your effort along this topic.

@CHamilton: You might try the Classroom 2.0 commu...

2008-12-12T14:18:00.000-08:00

@CHamilton: You might try the Classroom 2.0 community (http://www.classroom20.com), or for something a little more organized, http://wiki.classroom20.com has some of what I think you're looking for.

However, you "smell" right. We're currently working on a collaborative book effort from the Web 2.0 community that could be downloaded and is an organized introduction and aid to using Web 2.0 in the classroom. :)

Hi Steve,
I'm looking for a resource or list of...

2008-12-12T12:48:00.000-08:00

Hi Steve,
I'm looking for a resource or list of K-12 Web 2.0 best practices or examples. Do such lists exist yet? The EduBlog awards site for example cites projects by name but not what they target or are addressing from educational perspective. Do I smell a book being formed? Sounds old school but might reach the community.

Oh, you rule-breaker you! I hope you'll repost tom...

2008-10-20T09:44:00.000-07:00

Oh, you rule-breaker you! I hope you'll repost tomorrow on the Britannica site when it goes live.

I agree completely that the creative and constructive work we're discussing doesn't require Web 2.0.

However, I think 1) it's important to make the case that there can be and is very real educational value in Web 2.0; 2) that the world is moving in a direction that will make *not* teaching students to be a part of the conversation will be seriously detrimental to their life and career aspirations; and 3) that if you look at the dramatic changes taking place in the personal learning of educators using Web 2.0, there is something about these tools which greatly facilitates the "pedagogical territory" we're talking about.

I do agree with your caveat about math and science.

Hi Steve,
Sorry to go all Palin on you and not ...

2008-10-20T09:30:00.000-07:00

Hi Steve,
Sorry to go all Palin on you and not follow instructions, but I couldn't find a place to post comments over at the Britannica Blog.

Anyway, I think you are building a great case for students doing creative and constructive work on a very narrow ledge. It's like arguing for writing by calling it "book".

Does a movie have to be on YouTube to be creative? Does a piece of art have to be online to be meaningful? Why is the learning potential of video games any different than any of the items you've posted here?

Web 2.0 facilitates a small range of creative possibilities, even narrower than simply using a computer. The focus on information and communication excludes too much of what students need to be doing, especially in math and science.

I agree that the main implication of Web 2.0 may be to disrupt the closed, isolated classroom. But beyond that, I think you've claimed a lot of pedagogical territory that doesn't fit under a Web 2.0 label.