tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18676377.post1929150383708643621..comments2024-03-18T10:20:04.643-04:00Comments on Steve Hargadon: Elevating the Education Reform Dialog, Live on MondaySteve Hargadonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17776685502090744803noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18676377.post-83953788809575866762010-10-05T12:35:12.653-04:002010-10-05T12:35:12.653-04:00Here are my thoughts on this event:
http://web.me...Here are my thoughts on this event:<br /><br />http://web.me.com/timholt/Intended_Consequenses/Intended_Consequences_v._2.0/Entries/2010/10/4_Elevating_the_Education_Reform_Dialog__Hogwash.html#<br /><br />You will see that I was not as impressed as everyone else seemed to be.Tim Holthttp://timholt.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18676377.post-79917784823220328622010-10-03T23:36:37.605-04:002010-10-03T23:36:37.605-04:00This group of speakers is phenomenal. All should&...This group of speakers is phenomenal. All should've been invited to EducationNation. <br /><br />I'm absolutely looking forward to this. Thank you.chungahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11106667474153634408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18676377.post-30504202794076122532010-10-03T20:00:51.858-04:002010-10-03T20:00:51.858-04:00Steve,
Thanks for doing this! In response to thos...Steve,<br /> Thanks for doing this! In response to those looking for classroom teachers. There will be plenty in attendance I am sure. In my experience, Steve has always asked for the opinions of his attendees, so I don't see the lack of teachers on the panel as a problem. The members on the panel have many combined years of experience in the classroom as opposed to the billionaires pushing their own agenda. This urban educator who is in the classroom everyday is really looking forward to a stimulating conversation. See you there!Annhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13400406605179072844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18676377.post-89033808224419456782010-10-02T12:06:49.823-04:002010-10-02T12:06:49.823-04:00I think it's a great idea to add a classroom t...I think it's a great idea to add a classroom teacher to this panel. It's probably too late at this point but here are a few teachers who I feel would add a lot to this conversation:<br /><br />Bill Ferriter:<br />http://teacherleaders.typepad.com/the_tempered_radical<br /><br />Brian Crosby:<br />http://learningismessy.com/blog<br /><br />H. Songhai:<br />http://songhaiconcepts.blogspot.com<br /><br />Diana Laufenberg:<br />http://laufenberg.wordpress.com<br /><br />Paul Allison:<br />http://teachersteachingteachers.orgGeorge Mayohttp://www.mrmayo.org/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18676377.post-73477476155350984012010-10-01T21:14:22.226-04:002010-10-01T21:14:22.226-04:00I wonder how many politicians and other people so ...I wonder how many politicians and other people so critical of education will tune in to be part of a discussion to truly improve education. <br /><br />I cannot attend, but hope you archive it for listening later. Steve, thanks for being such a strong advocate for public education and teachers.Shawn Kimball, Hampden Academy Integration Specialisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10262353389138525598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18676377.post-38988815006395706582010-10-01T12:37:04.367-04:002010-10-01T12:37:04.367-04:00Why is it that anyone who suggests a way for teach...Why is it that anyone who suggests a way for teachers to break with the past, act like ALL other professions, and get the respect they and their students deserve...<br /><br />...is automatically accused of "bashing".<br /><br />I should like to ban that word from the education domain forever and ever. <br /><br />Do let us resolve: anyone who uses "bashing" will be considered one of (or accomplice to) the 1/3 of one percent of experienced teachers who need to be removed/reassigned/retrained.Edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05014466573335846275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18676377.post-71477856599453183262010-10-01T12:29:24.610-04:002010-10-01T12:29:24.610-04:00sorry Steve, but not one of those teachers has bee...sorry Steve, but not one of those teachers has been inside (teaching day to day) a classroom in more than 5 years. (I might be incorrect on that with Will but think I am correct with the rest.)<br /><br />You must include teacher voices and not just teacher responses. <br /><br />You have brought together an impressive group of educators who were once in the classroom. Please expand the list to include at least one or two experts who ARE in the classroom.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18676377.post-70915442681622030372010-10-01T12:19:55.904-04:002010-10-01T12:19:55.904-04:00Regarding teacher participation:
1. Hopefully, w...Regarding teacher participation:<br /><br />1. Hopefully, we've brought together a group that's high-profile <i>and</i> supportive of expanding the educator voice in the dialog. <br /><br />2. We also hope that teachers will come to the event and participate. <br /><br />3. Do check out the http://www.futureofeducation.com interview series, both past and future, as one venue where we've tried to have a broader opportunity for participation in these discussions.<br /><br />Thanks for the comments!Steve Hargadonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17776685502090744803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18676377.post-56556554005482260512010-10-01T12:12:09.420-04:002010-10-01T12:12:09.420-04:00Obviously, you can't please everyone with any ...Obviously, you can't please everyone with any one event, but after my <a href="http://stephenlazar.com/blog/2010/09/education-nation-i-should-have-known-better/>experience at Education Nation</a>, I don't think this is the correct response, and if anything, might be counter productive. Just as NBC didn't take the voices of people in the classrooms seriously, this conversation does not include any classroom teachers. Additionally, with the exception of Deborah, none of your panelists seem to have any significant experience with non-selective urban education, which, let's be honest, is the only place the crisis anyone cares about is happening.<br /><br />I write this loving the majority of your panel. Debbie Meier, along with Ted Sizer, is the reason I decided to become a teacher in the first place. I would literally do anything she asked me to. Alfie Kohn's writings have had a tremendous influence on me, and I just gave Beyond Discipline to our new dean. Will was the first edublogger I discovered six years ago, and has pushed my thinking ever since. Chris is my favorite on-the-ground educator I know, and SLA has been an inspiration to me as I've tried to help build a school in the Bronx. I can't wait to tune in, and learn from these amazing educators. <br /><br />With that said, I just wish this wasn't being posited as "elevating" the dialogue. It's a great conversation, but, like NBC, it doesn't seem to include any dissenting voices. Like NBC, it doesn't include teachers. Like NBC, it's privileging "expert" voices over the ones on the ground with the students no one is selecting for schools like SLA. And it must be noted, it is 100% white. <br /><br />I should've known better than to expect any better from NBC and the Rhee/Canada/Charter School "Reformers", but I have a much higher expectation for those who are on my side. We need to be better than them. That is the best way forward.Stephen Lazarhttp://blog.stephenlazar.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18676377.post-14664809558675734112010-10-01T12:07:17.243-04:002010-10-01T12:07:17.243-04:00Great effort. I totally agree that the conversatio...Great effort. I totally agree that the conversation has been hijacked by those who promote negativity and blaming. I suspect they don't understand that's what they are doing, but the result is very bad. Cheers!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07584464447089705780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18676377.post-70322425378853929082010-10-01T11:55:46.922-04:002010-10-01T11:55:46.922-04:00Where are the teachers???
The voices talking here...Where are the teachers???<br /><br />The voices talking here are exceptional but not one of them is still teaching in a classroom.<br /><br />Please add some teacher voices.<br /><br />Thank youAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18676377.post-7114265716762789752010-09-30T23:25:34.289-04:002010-09-30T23:25:34.289-04:00Would like to see a more diverse group of scholars...Would like to see a more diverse group of scholars who can weigh in on this topic. A few you should consider: Janelle Scott, UC Berkeley, Linda Darling-Hammond, Stanford U., Gloria Ladson-Billings, UW-Madison, Amy Stuart-Wells, Teachers College, Peter Murrell, Loyola University-Maryland to name a few.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18676377.post-80531047340774060382010-09-30T21:47:40.033-04:002010-09-30T21:47:40.033-04:00I believe this is going to be a wonderful conversa...I believe this is going to be a wonderful conversation -- but how are you going to get it beyond just the regular group of people who attend.<br /><br />Are you contacting the news, radio, etc??<br /><br />How can we get the word beyond the usual listeners??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18676377.post-46960693696721569002010-09-30T21:42:44.869-04:002010-09-30T21:42:44.869-04:00Steve, thanks for gathering the great voices and p...Steve, thanks for gathering the great voices and providing the forum. Sounds great! I'm really hoping, along with Jeff, that you're able/willing to add current classroom teachers, as "special guests" and highlighted "speakers". - MarkMark Ahlnesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17272987393319865752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18676377.post-25749678160075181552010-09-30T18:52:57.394-04:002010-09-30T18:52:57.394-04:00Reposting at Teachers' Letters to Obama, a Fac...Reposting at Teachers' Letters to Obama, a Facebook group with 3000 members that has quietly been doing the same kind of virtual community building. Over 500 people have attended our series of "Roundtables," hearing guests like Diane Ravitch, Lily Eskelson, Yong Zhao, Monty Neill, Rep. Judy Chu (D-CA), Doug Christenson--and a host of teachers who want to push back against deceptive media.<br /><br />Looking forward to next Monday.Nancy Flanaganhttp://blogs.edweek.org/teachers/teacher_in_a_strange_land/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18676377.post-6155623124508077102010-09-30T17:56:36.544-04:002010-09-30T17:56:36.544-04:00Gary - I agree. An excellent panel. I just think t...Gary - I agree. An excellent panel. I just think those who spend all day everyday in schools (like Chris) with the primary responsibility for their students' education, add another valuable dimension. And, yes, this is just one conversation amongst many that need to take place. I certainly hope other such conversations, that include other constituencies, take place. No Nukes ...Branzburghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02958536497477359917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18676377.post-53577299504880840952010-09-30T17:08:50.724-04:002010-09-30T17:08:50.724-04:00Jeff,
Chris Lehmann is a school principal and a c...Jeff,<br /><br />Chris Lehmann is a school principal and a couple of us work in schools constantly and with teacher regularly. Deborah Meier is a MacArthur Genius with 50+ years of experience. Alfie Kohn is a tireless advocate for children.<br /><br />There is room for more than one venue and a need for a lot more conversations. Teachers should organize and speak out. Maybe some parents, retired educators, teamsters and Democrats should too.<br /><br />It does no good for progressive educators to engage in friendly fire when the rest of the world has nuclear weapons (Oprah, NBC, etc...)<br /><br />The quality and validity of the debate should not be judged or reduced to teacher head-count.<br /><br />NBC included teachers in Education Nation - see who they are and why they were chosen - http://bit.ly/du53uN<br /><br />GaryGaryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16005284607047954745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18676377.post-33548379506305280232010-09-30T16:33:46.958-04:002010-09-30T16:33:46.958-04:00Steve,
I am simply and utterly happy that you all...Steve,<br /><br />I am simply and utterly happy that you all are combining to do this.<br /><br />It's the kind of discussion we need to be having.<br /><br />Simply--thank you.Carolyn Footehttp://www.futura.edublogs.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18676377.post-48757948123241020292010-09-30T16:26:07.397-04:002010-09-30T16:26:07.397-04:00Absolutely true - very few educators have been dri...Absolutely true - very few educators have been driving the recent publicity. Very nice to see this panel of respected, insightful, and influential people who are closely involved in education. Although, none are current classroom teachers, I believe.Branzburghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02958536497477359917noreply@blogger.com